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By the way - to find out when people died, unless it is written in the personaalraamatud, is the only way to get lucky by reading the surmameetrika?
Yes - record by record... until you loose your consciousness :D

Well, in some cases you may get a hint from other sources like census lists, civil ...

Mina was Kuksi (farm) Kasper Sangernebo's widow and Hans Sulsinberg's daughter.
Saaga EAA.1275.1.548:44?47,1302,954,108,0
Saaga EAA.1275.1.548:33?111,1437,648,82,0

Jaan Oia and her Lena are listed here Saaga EAA.1275.1.553:66?136,682,1064,169,0

I'm still in awe over how quickly you find ...

The tricky thing about Halliste is that unlike in most of other parishes the priests of Halliste used to describe persons in their birth, marriage and death records by the place where they worked as servants or maids.

Thanks for the deciphering - and especially for that explanation about the ...

Look at my posting from Oct 11, 2010 - according to the marriage record and Els's death record she was born in Neu-Bornhusen, not in Abja. And her mother should be Rõõt. This Hans you've found is Lopa Jänese Hans - Loppa Jaennese Hans. But I don't think he is the right one.

So true. I think I got ...

I found this birth record, and I have a hard time interpreting what it says: EAA.1275.1.166:73 . Something with "Loppa ____ Hans wb Lena zwillinger". And I presume "Loppa" is the farm name - as usual?

I was looking for the birth of Els around 1786, with father Hans, and since nobody moved very far ...

Thanks for finding the older book for me too.

I have had problems with all the references in this book (EAA.1275.1.548:89)before. I wonder if anyone knows where they are pointing to, since apparently it's not a reference within the book itself, and neither to the previous church book...

Oops! Sorry - father's name should be Ristohwer, of course! Yes, it seems, that even the priest himself was confused.

Hahaha, well, it couldn't be easy keeping track of all those people for the poor priest. ;-)

Would you have any idea to which book the references p.140 and p.85 might go to ...

:D Congratulations!
Aitäh! :-)

Vater Wirth Ristian, Mutter Rööt, beide leben - father is the farmer Ristian (Oja), mother Rõõt, both living

The whole family is here Saaga EAA.1275.1.548:89?22,392,1062,736,0

Thanks!!! But this is a bit strange, since according to the family page, I read that ...

Hello everyone!

After finding over 400 relatives, I had an overdose of genealogy. But since then, I decided to try to become an Estonian citizen! :-) I received my passport two weeks ago. See what genealogy can do! ;-)

And now I've regained interest, and I just found my fourth great grandparents ...

Thanks, maiasmokk!


8. Yup, numbers are written out as words, in Cyrillic to boot. Märt died 29. Aug, at 10 in the evening and buried on 13. Sep
I guess I need to start learning to read Cyrillic then, and at least the words for 1-31 and the month names. :P
I'm sure you mean that Märt was born on ...

Thank you, Mari and Katrin!!! :D

And thanks for the link to Rääbus. It was absolutely one of the most difficult pages I have ever tried to read! :P But I guess if one tries to squeeze in 103 years of family history in one book, I'm sure it gets a bit complicated after a while. :)

(6) I tried to ...

(4) I must have been tired when writing the post...
Here's the first entry: EAA.1275.1.536:60?123,459,1044,100,0
and here's the second: EAA.1275.1.532:113?293,943,1112,218,0

bengt kirjutas: (3) Trying to learn something, I presume this abbreviation (just below her name) says "surn.", meaning dead/buried?

How embarrassing - I forgot to look in my notes. Of course it means death. (Thanks, Katsa!)

Thanks for the interesting, as always, updates!

I'm feeling that I'm, finally, getting to a point where surprises are starting to come less seldom, and I don't have to work so hard on adding new connections to the tree in Geni.com ;)

(1) I managed to trace one relative, but I can't seem to be able ...

14. Hendrik is most likely an illegitimate child. Anno has been penalized for child murder.

So here's finally the famous murderer every genealogist hope not to find in their family tree... :shock:
I presume this is what can be read from the comment ? ("xxx kindermord bestrafft") What is the ...

THANKS!!!

One little question...


Tilk family in soul revisions:
1811 Saaga EAA.1865.3.171/5:9?170,1323,1007,366,0
1816 Saaga EAA.1865.5.166:17?92,564,2277,258,0
1826 Saaga EAA.1865.3.171/12:21?227,645,2246,225,0


These were great links. But one thing is very confusing to me. In all the soul ...

I managed to find the birth and death dates for Napsi Juhhan Reissaar I: 17 October 1775. d.10 March 1837 . But still no info about parents etc.

I did find some other strange things I would like help with if someone knows what is going on...

10. What do you think happened here? http://www.ra.ee ...

Hello Katsa!
I tried browsing the main book, but I realized quickly that an index could be quite helpful. :P It seems like most of my relatives (Kütt, Tilk, Reissaar) lived in the Pebo, Napsi or Saado/Saduu farms, so I'd like to focus on those. All of these farms were located in the Neu Bornhusen ...

Passer Urbanus, you are amazing! Not only did you manage to interpret all the scribblings, but also with references! Thanks a lot!!!

I'm sorry - of course I should have numbered the questions. :) OK, so here goes the next questions:

(This is so much fun!!!)

1. I have one more which I can't read ...

Wow, it feels like it was ages since I first started with this, but it's only been a few months. During that time, I've found over 300 Estonian relatives, 25 ancestors and the tree is constantly growing. And even a living, previously unknown second cousin!

So, I have some problems interpreting ...

Birgit, thanks! It's all a lot of fun and quite amazing! :)

And thanks for the link. I'm afraid I haven't found out much about the Palu tee address. What a coincidence that you have friends on that street! Maybe they know the people in number 26 and can ask them if they know something about the ...

All this information is really very rewarding!

My mother is stunned and very happy! And thanks to this forum I am now in contact with several relatives and other amazingly helpful people who have enlightened my life!

Now, of course I have new energy to research my grandmother's side as well. I ...

Someone was told, that Vladimir Kütt was Swedish Royal veterinarian. Is it true or not we dont know. I hope you can find it out! :D

I believe Vladimir came to Sweden in 1944, and my mother moved to Sweden in 1958. In between that time, we don't know much about his whereabouts or work. After 1958 ...

I have a bit more information about Vladimir Kütt and his brother Kolja. Kolja come back to Tartu and hang oneself. He yearned Russia.
I have photos about Vladimir Kütt. My husband lived 17 years in house Raatuse 106 Tartu. At first he lived there with Ida Kütt. My husbands mothers grandmother was ...

I cannot explain, why this Jaak, Johan S. is written here in the first place - perhaps mistakenly. No. 30 refers to the farm called Naistewalla. Usually there where many families and single persons living and working at a farm. This Jaak, Johan S. was living in Naistewalla No. 30 in 1816 and he was ...

just in case - have you found the name register of Saaga: http://www.ra.ee/dgs/addon/nimreg/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I found some ways of searching for names, but not from there. Thanks for the link!

Knowing birthplace is already quite a lot. Here's a database that links ...

I just again want to thank everyone for the GREAT help! I couldn't have done it without you!

I think I've (almost) figured out how to work the SAGA database now. I find it a bit tricky to find the right books if one only knows the parish or birthplace, but I think I may have gotten the hang of it ...

Jakob and his family in the soul revision lists:
1811 Saaga EAA.1865.3.171/5:9?1334,500,1030,158,0
1816 Saaga EAA.1865.5.166:17?148,1149,2210,169,0
1826 (an intermediate revision where the family names were fixed) Saaga EAA.1865.3.171/12:21?258,1007,2219,251,0


So, trying to trace things ...

I have quite a lot of information (incl. photos) about the descendants of Märt Kütt and their home in Metsakivi, as it happens to be my home now. I have sent you a private e-mail.

This is of course a coincidence so mind blowing I can't really fathom it yet. :D I have written you back, and I hope ...

I just want to say once again that I am absolutely speechless, and my mother is in happy tears, for all this information! Thanks again, everyone!

I am currently processing all this info, taking notes, following links (thanks Katsa for the last list of links - I'll be sure to check them all ...