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-------- Original Message --------
 From: "Arnold Arum=3DC3=3DA4e" <arno1954@hotmail.com>
 To: "info@isik.ee" <info@isik.ee>
 Date: 17.01.2010 11:29:48
 Subject: Re: Minu juured.
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Tere!<br />
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Klienditeenindaja <br />
Eesti Isikuloo Keskus, Tiigi 10-51, 51003 Tartu <br />
<br />
Internet: http://www.isik.ee , sdl@isik.ee <br />
Faks 742 0882, mobiil 528 1478<br />
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<blockquote style=3D3D"border-left: 3px solid black; margin: 5px; padding: =
=3D
10px;"> -------- Original Message --------<br />
From: "Arnold Arum=3DC3=3DA4e" &lt;arno1954@hotmail.com&gt;<br />
To: "info@isik.ee" &lt;info@isik.ee&gt;<br />
Date: 17.01.2010 11:29:48<br />
Subject: Re: Minu juured.<br />
<br />
Tere!Soovin abi oma juurte kohta.P=3DC3=3DBC=3DC3=3DBCan edastada =
k=3DC3=3DB5ik,mida =3D
on millalgi r=3DC3=3DA4=3DC3=3DA4kinud minu vanemad.Minu isal oli =
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keeruline elu ja ka iseloom oli tal v=3DC3=3DA4ga ki<br />
<br />
nnine.Seep=3DC3=3DA4rast on mul temast teada v=3DC3=3DA4he.Ka ei olnud =
emaga =3D
seaduslikus abielus.Teilt abipalumise eesm=3DC3=3DA4rk on lihtsalt oma =3D
vanematest rohkem teada saamine.Niisiis: Eduard Gustavi pg =3D
Kelli.(teg.Karli pg).S=3DC3=3DBCnd 23 m=3DC3=3DA4rts 1914(teg.11 nov.1914) =
=3D
Pihvka(Novgorodi?)oblastis.Isaisast ei tea rohkem.Isaema tuli =
p=3DC3=3DA4rast =3D
s=3DC3=3DB5da Eestisse Saadj=3DC3=3DA4rve valda elama ja suri Rakveres =
1975a =3D
paiku.Tal oli veel poeg Oskar Kelli kes maeti samuti Rakveres =
m=3DC3=3DB5ned =3D
aastad tagasi.Isa elas Venemaal s=3DC3=3DB5jani.Ta abiellus venelannaga ja =
=3D
neil s=3DC3=3DBCndisid pojad Viktor(j=3DC3=3DA4igi elama Novgorodi ja =
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seal)ja Aleksander,kes s=3DC3=3DBCndis 1 sept.1939 kes kasvas isa juures =
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tolajal =3D
v=3DC3=3DB5imude poolt soositud venemaa eestlane,siis tehti talle =
ettepanek =3D
asuda juhtima tollast Saadj=3DC3=3DA4rve valda,mille isa ka vastu =3D
v=3DC3=3DB5ttis.Seal ristusid neil teed emaga aastal 1944-1945.1947 aastal =
=3D
s=3DC3=3DBCndis neil poeg Kalju ,kuid aasta l=3DC3=3DB5pus pandi isa =
pealekaebuse =3D
t=3DC3=3DB5ttu kinni.Nagu seletas ema,v=3DC3=3DB5ttis isa tema =
s=3DC3=3DBC=3DC3=3DBC enda =3D
peale.Nii istuski ta Sahhalini saarel 5 =
aastat(m=3DC3=3DA4=3DC3=3DA4rati7).Vabanes =3D
1953 ja 54 s=3DC3=3DBCndisin mina,55 =3DC3=3DB5de Malle ja 63 vend =
Raini.Isa suri =3D
17 apr 1987.N=3DC3=3DBC=3DC3=3DBCd emast:s=3DC3=3DBCndis 21 juuli 1919 =
Saadj=3DC3=3DA4rve =3D
mail.Tema isa oli Peeter Oinas ja seda perekonnanime kandis ka minu ema =3D
kuni abiellumiseni 1940-date algul,millest peale kuni surmani 1991 a. =3D
kandis ta nime Aliide-Johanna Arum=3DC3=3DA4e.Sellest abielust =
s=3DC3=3DBCndis =3D
t=3DC3=3DBCtar Hiie 1942.Enne s=3DC3=3DB5ja l=3DC3=3DB5ppu nad =
lahutasid.Ema vanematel =3D
oli palju lapsi,kahjuks ei tea ma neist suurt midagi.Ka ei tea ma emaemast =
=3D
midagi.                Palun vabandust minu kohmaka arvutikasutamise =3D
oskuse p=3DC3=3DA4rast.Kui nende andmete abil pole v=3DC3=3DB5imalik =
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=3D
ei soovi.                         Minu andmed:ik.35402202738   Arnold =3D
Arum=3DC3=3DA4e                                                            =
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